tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post185781679621167774..comments2023-12-25T11:13:04.495+00:00Comments on Seraphic Singles: Memories of MartyrsSeraphichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06251504033428511090noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-64380554478157814002012-08-05T11:23:33.656+01:002012-08-05T11:23:33.656+01:00There's nothing per se bad about someone being...There's nothing per se bad about someone being punished by those in power: that's one of the reasons we have states with ways of enforcing the law. Holding to a minority belief and being punished for this or related reasons by a power-holding majority, or by power-holders holding to a majority belief/thesis, does not make you right, nor the punishers wrong in punishing you.<br /><br />People do act in ways that contradict their own supposed premises, and this ought to be pointed out when it happens, but as the playwright Christopher Shinn wrote somewhere, "I don't think we should give up our values to find common ground. Then it's not common ground, it's their ground and we're just standing on it."berenikehttp://exlaodicea.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-50679936381284331682012-08-05T00:35:35.667+01:002012-08-05T00:35:35.667+01:00They harp a lot on equality here in Canada. To wi...They harp a lot on equality here in Canada. To wit, if you are opposed to same-sex marriage, then you don't think gays and lesbians are not equal to straight people. Horsepucky, I say! Homosexual people are absolutely equal to heterosexual people, it is their RELATIONSHIPS that are unequal. I really don't see why this is such a problem.<br /><br />The day that two men (or two women) can lie down together one night, just the two of them, and use their love to create a tiny third person, that will be the day that we can say that a homosexual relationship is a marriage, equal to a heterosexual one. Until then, same sex relationships are simply NOT equal to opposite sex ones, and it is not discrimination to treat them differently.Melissanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-32271896920224480692012-08-03T15:13:19.196+01:002012-08-03T15:13:19.196+01:00Maria,
Since all of my kith and kin are on the Pr...Maria,<br /><br />Since all of my kith and kin are on the Protestant side, I would like to point out that there are plenty of Protestant denominations that don't agree or support same sex marriage. Yes, the Episcopals (Anglicans), Lutherans, etc. now support it, but those denominations have been dying for decades in the US. The majority of US churches support traditional marriage.okiegrlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-37532879305354709642012-08-03T09:26:59.657+01:002012-08-03T09:26:59.657+01:00No, no, no. If you mention the Nazis, you LOSE.
D...No, no, no. If you mention the Nazis, you LOSE.<br /><br />Dear me, I think that may have been the first mention of the Nazis on this particular blog. On my first blog they showed up in my science-fiction-fantasy serial.Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-76295198584077068112012-08-03T06:59:20.650+01:002012-08-03T06:59:20.650+01:00PS WOO HOO! First girl to mention the Nazis! I win...PS WOO HOO! First girl to mention the Nazis! I win!Joan of Quarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-28700673505115857592012-08-03T06:58:12.394+01:002012-08-03T06:58:12.394+01:00Miss Doyle, I'm in Australia as well, which is...Miss Doyle, I'm in Australia as well, which is increasingly becoming a country where the state does exactly that: try to make itself responsible for people's emotions and feelings.<br /><br />Feel bad? The state will help you find someone to blame.<br />Still feel bad? The state will pay for the pills and some of the therapy, and will help you get compensation to pay for the rest.<br />And still feel bad? The state itself will take care of you for the rest of your life. <br /><br />I worry about sentimentality in Australia, because it's a hallmark of Nazism. The Nazis were hugely sentimental, and look what they managed to do.Joan of Quarknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-5650015630524261902012-08-03T06:06:00.348+01:002012-08-03T06:06:00.348+01:00Unfortunately Maria, most other Christian denomina...Unfortunately Maria, most other Christian denominations are in favour of 'gay marriage' or run a very close second if they favour something akin to 'civil unions' instead.<br /><br />Seraphic, you are right to point out that love has nothing to do with it.<br />In a legal sense, marriage has only ever had 4 caveats - that it should be one man and one woman (2), for life (3) to the exclusion of others (4).<br />Love isn't mentioned - why? Because they state has no authority to regulate emotions and feelings.<br />Which is why the argument used in favour of gay marriage is null and void - ie. 'but we love each-other, don't discriminate against our love'.<br />The state doesn't, and isn't. <br />One of the most popular catch cries in Australia right now (which is debating this issue at the moment too) is that being against gay marriage is the same bigotry used when white people couldn't marry people with other skin colours.<br />What a load of rubbish.<br />For more non-religious discussions about this issue - google Brendan O'Connor, he's a humanist and an atheist, but makes some great comments about this current debacle.Miss Doylenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-9803162364975170032012-08-03T00:37:44.736+01:002012-08-03T00:37:44.736+01:00Aren't there any other faith groups out there ...Aren't there any other faith groups out there who are being strong-armed into accepting gay marriage against their will? I hear a lot about Catholics and those of various Christian denominations but nothing about Jews or Muslims. Surely this is the sort of thing where we should be able to get support from other faiths!Marianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-59679498284395965662012-08-02T22:10:38.367+01:002012-08-02T22:10:38.367+01:00I STILL couldn't get into a Chick-fil-a store ...I STILL couldn't get into a Chick-fil-a store today. Cars were lined up out to the street.okiegrlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-9591595141416192982012-08-02T14:38:34.691+01:002012-08-02T14:38:34.691+01:00Oh, yes. I'm very much in touch with the Chick...Oh, yes. I'm very much in touch with the Chick-fil-a situation! That was most definitely a case of people trying to have revenge on a Christian who simply believes in the traditional definition of marriage (which I believe is still law in most of the USA). But the great news is that other Americans have seen the boycott for what it is--an attack on Christians' freedom of speech and freedom of religion--and are showing exactly what they think of that.Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6905236167079601771.post-48894643031574540582012-08-02T14:29:31.123+01:002012-08-02T14:29:31.123+01:00Thank you for eloquently explaining why secular ma...Thank you for eloquently explaining why secular marriage ought to line up with religious marriage - even if you aren't religious. <br /><br />Beyond that, did you <i>hear</i> about the Chick-fil-A debacle here in America? The fast food chain doesn't even open up on Sundays, so that their employees can keep the Sabbath, but everyone acted all surprised to find out that their CEO donates money to support traditional marriage - and a few mayors denied building permits to the company as a result. <br /><br />~theobromophileAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com