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Wednesday 4 December 2013
Anyone Want a Leftie?
Here's a cri de coeur from some poor Catholic lecturer who loves Day and Merton and apparently dissents on the SSA stuff. If he sounds like your cup of tea, er.... I don't know what. Google him or something.
Thanks to Marta for the link.
10 comments:
Heather in Toronto
said...
Actually, looks like he dissents on the standard gamut of Pelvic Issues and the notion of the authority of the Church in general.
So, basically, what he is looking for is someone who doesn't mind his embarrassingly lingering emotional ties to his childhood faith, but also doesn't mind that he considers his embarrassingly lingering emotional ties to his childhood faith to be some kind of character flaw because, y'know, big bad oppressive Church and all that.
An interesting insight into the mind of the liberal dissenting nominal Catholic.
I enjoyed the article, but refrained from commenting on your Facebook post because some of your friends clearly didn't. It isn't really a lonely hearts ad at all; it's an insight into a mainstream social attitude. I can certainly relate to the strange looks and quick assumptions that happen the moment I mention my faith, not just from guys, but from just about everyone. Then I have to give long explanations of how I'm not crazy, uptight, brainwashed or any of the other labels that are socially acceptable to apply to Catholics. I think all Catholics (and I'm sure a lot of other Christians as well) experience this to some extent. It was nice to see someone writing on the topic.
I thought it was particularly sad how he almost broke his back to impress upon his readers how with-it he is, how much he has faced up to the brokenness of people in positions of leadership in the church (to put it in a nice way), how annoyed he is by the idea of "converting" people with SSA. The article was an extension of his day-to-day apologetic, not for the faith, but for himself.
Anyway, not all my readers are super-trad or even Catholics, so I thought it would be nice to put up something the more progressive girls could identify with. (Can I say proggy? I like the word proggy, to rhyme with froggy. "Are you traddy or proggy?" "Oh, I'm 9/10th traddie and 2/10 proggie. I looove Benedict XIV, but I rock out to Praise and Worship and I love being a lector. Minor orders, minor shrorders. Priesthood of the Laity, y'all!" )
"Then I have to give long explanations of how I'm not crazy, uptight, brainwashed or any of the other labels that are socially acceptable to apply to Catholics"
What if you just didn't bother with those explanations? Let people discover your personality and the complexity of your beliefs themselves, rather than scrambling to assume they believe the worst of your faith and of your fellow Catholics. Maybe you will find that people are not as prejudiced as you think.
I guess I was exaggerating in saying just about everyone, but I've certainly experienced times when friends I've known for a few years have said something like "so if you're a Catholic, you think X, right?" when that's not what I think at all. (Not refering to church doctrine, just to social or political opinions.)
I'm becoming better at acknowledging my faith when talking to people I don't know well, and now that I'm out of university there is certainly less atheist/agnostic groupthink around. Still, the easiest course of action seems to be keeping my faith fairly private - not exactly a helpful approach in the dating scene.
Woodbine, I know. Utterly terrible. The question I learned to dread during my undergrad U of T days was, "So how Catholic are you?"
Blah. You know, the "Catholic ghetto" of the old days pretty well enforced that Catholics married Catholics (although there has always been a lot of intermarriage in Toronto). But nowadays the whole secular sexual scene basically leaves religious Catholics scrambling to find their way back into the "Catholic ghetto"! I refused to do that forever, though, but I wasn't rooted in reality about myself, and without Catholic networking... Well...
Seraphic, I am an interloper but from a male perspective, women in general don't care if you're Catholic as long as you don't feel ashamed about it and don't feel the need to grovel about it.
10 comments:
Actually, looks like he dissents on the standard gamut of Pelvic Issues and the notion of the authority of the Church in general.
So, basically, what he is looking for is someone who doesn't mind his embarrassingly lingering emotional ties to his childhood faith, but also doesn't mind that he considers his embarrassingly lingering emotional ties to his childhood faith to be some kind of character flaw because, y'know, big bad oppressive Church and all that.
An interesting insight into the mind of the liberal dissenting nominal Catholic.
I enjoyed the article, but refrained from commenting on your Facebook post because some of your friends clearly didn't. It isn't really a lonely hearts ad at all; it's an insight into a mainstream social attitude. I can certainly relate to the strange looks and quick assumptions that happen the moment I mention my faith, not just from guys, but from just about everyone. Then I have to give long explanations of how I'm not crazy, uptight, brainwashed or any of the other labels that are socially acceptable to apply to Catholics. I think all Catholics (and I'm sure a lot of other Christians as well) experience this to some extent. It was nice to see someone writing on the topic.
Yes, I thought so, too.
I thought it was particularly sad how he almost broke his back to impress upon his readers how with-it he is, how much he has faced up to the brokenness of people in positions of leadership in the church (to put it in a nice way), how annoyed he is by the idea of "converting" people with SSA. The article was an extension of his day-to-day apologetic, not for the faith, but for himself.
Anyway, not all my readers are super-trad or even Catholics, so I thought it would be nice to put up something the more progressive girls could identify with. (Can I say proggy? I like the word proggy, to rhyme with froggy. "Are you traddy or proggy?" "Oh, I'm 9/10th traddie and 2/10 proggie. I looove Benedict XIV, but I rock out to Praise and Worship and I love being a lector. Minor orders, minor shrorders. Priesthood of the Laity, y'all!" )
Not too keen on the label, but count me as somewhere on that side if the spectrum.
"Then I have to give long explanations of how I'm not crazy, uptight, brainwashed or any of the other labels that are socially acceptable to apply to Catholics"
What if you just didn't bother with those explanations? Let people discover your personality and the complexity of your beliefs themselves, rather than scrambling to assume they believe the worst of your faith and of your fellow Catholics. Maybe you will find that people are not as prejudiced as you think.
I guess I was exaggerating in saying just about everyone, but I've certainly experienced times when friends I've known for a few years have said something like "so if you're a Catholic, you think X, right?" when that's not what I think at all. (Not refering to church doctrine, just to social or political opinions.)
I'm becoming better at acknowledging my faith when talking to people I don't know well, and now that I'm out of university there is certainly less atheist/agnostic groupthink around. Still, the easiest course of action seems to be keeping my faith fairly private - not exactly a helpful approach in the dating scene.
Woodbine, I know. Utterly terrible. The question I learned to dread during my undergrad U of T days was, "So how Catholic are you?"
Blah. You know, the "Catholic ghetto" of the old days pretty well enforced that Catholics married Catholics (although there has always been a lot of intermarriage in Toronto). But nowadays the whole secular sexual scene basically leaves religious Catholics scrambling to find their way back into the "Catholic ghetto"! I refused to do that forever, though, but I wasn't rooted in reality about myself, and without Catholic networking... Well...
PS. Apologies for the terrible grammar in my comment. It really reads like I have never encountered the concept of punctuation, doesn't it?
I think "proggy" is cute and clever. I'd identify with it! But we need a "pro-life proggy" designation.
And I love being a lector. :-D
Alas, this guy is in his late 20s... too young, most likely, for late 30s left-leaning me...
Antigone in NYC
Seraphic, I am an interloper but from a male perspective, women in general don't care if you're Catholic as long as you don't feel ashamed about it and don't feel the need to grovel about it.
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